charliesmum | (no subject)

slammerkinbabe posted this article on her journal, and I started a comment, but then decided it would be better to rant in my own journal.

Okay, here's the thing about feminism. Men seem to think it means 'treat women like a man in a dress' but that isn't the case. I think feminism is all about having the choice. sixty-odd years ago a woman really didn't have a big choice. Some woman had careers, but it would have been perfectly acceptable to fire her if she got married. I worked with a woman who got married during the Great Depression, and they had to keep their marriage a secret because she had a good job and he didn't, and she would have lost her job had they known she was married. Today, fortunately, if a woman has talent in a position, she is, mostly, able to pursue that career, and won't have to give it up if she gets married or has children. The nice thing is, a woman can choose to give up her career to be a housewife, if she so desires. I really think all we wanted was a choice.

Then there's this paragraph:

The day men and women have the same level of power is the also the day when chivalry dies. Many women enjoy visiting bars and having men buy them drinks in exchange for a casual conversation. It seems that after all the work women put into getting ready for a night out, they won't compromise their ability to get free alcohol for the sake of self-independence.

I think women can be equal and still accept a drink if it is offered to her, and second, who says we go out to make 'causual conversation' with a guy. Maybe we just want to hang with our girlfriends and make fun of other people's outfits. You don't know.

The implication this boy is making is that we can't be girls and be feminists. Dude. being a feminist does not mean giving up everything feminine.

And anyway, real equality won't really happen until commercials featuring things like what to cook for dinner and which brand of detergent to use stars a man.

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oh my.I had to stop in middle of reading that thing because it was irritating me so much.
All these stereotypical generalizations of women are more than annoying.

We don't want - or need - horny idiots buying drinks for us, especially when they think we owe them something afterwards.
We really can do without the macho ego of the 'protecting guy who walks us home' as well.
We can perfectly well pay for our own lunches (split on first date and buy in turns from then onward is what I do). I don't see how that would make love awkward.
There is nothing wrong with the woman proposing and in exchanging rings (that's what most people I know do/did) - or maybe the man doesn't need a ring so he can freely flirt with the first cute girl he sees?
In a fair world, both men and women would have rifles in hand *yawn* this is truly stupid. There are plenty of women who are fighters. Most of them don't get the CHANCE to do it - not unable to. Not to mention that not all men are big Rambos either.
Comparatively fewer women than men work grueling hours on the assembly line really? Maybe if more men would take a maternity leave or tend to the children it would be about the same rate?
females develop an inherent relationship with their young ... childhood memories involve, not our father, but our mother. again, in a normal family it should involve both.

Of course by that dafinition I must be a butch, right? Of course, as far as I'm concerned, this type of attitude might as well think that. Who would want to date an idiot anyway.

I'm with you, obviously.
It just sometimes seems that no matter how much we move forward, there's always the big mouthed lagging idiots out there.

PPS
Before cooking commercials start featuring men, we need *any* commercial for *anything* to stop using half naked/sexually suggestive women to sell anything from underwear through washing powders to air-conditioners