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Now that I got your attention...

I actually agree with this comment from the Vatican, with qualifiers: "This is greatly fostered by a kind of pansexual culture that devalues sexuality, reducing it to mere pleasure without any further meaning," it said.

They, of course, go on to say that people shouldn't have pre-marital sex, which I don't wholly agree with, but I do think it ought to mean something; otherwise it doesn't mean anything.

Barring a professional relationship, generally if one has sex with someone it implies an intimacy, and you can't be both casual and intimate. It's a contradiction.

And frankly I really don't see what the rush is. Why is getting physical with each other's sexual organs so high on the list of things to do? Why does our society feel this need to make it commonplace? Familiarty breeds contempt, after all. Why rush to take the mystery out of everything?

In other news, there was this bath and beauty fair in my building - selling gift soaps and suchlike, and there was a person doing free chair massages. That was heavenly. My back is all sorts of tense and messed up, and the nerve thingies in my left shoulder and making my arm go all numb on many occasions, and I did feel much better for a while. Wish I could have sat there for an hour.

I may have to slip the brochure in front of my husband as a gentle hint for a Christmas present. It's a a bit expensive - but for $70 I could get a one hour full body massage in my own home, which would make me so very happy.

on 2005-11-29 09:32 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] leakyandsnort.livejournal.com
you can get one for less than that if you hire me!!

on 2005-11-30 12:11 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
Okay, you're hired! How soon can you get here? :)

Seriously, how much do you charge, because maybe I'll get my husband to give that to me for Christmas. I would kill for a really good massage.

Okay, not kill. I'd be really happy though.

on 2005-11-29 09:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/butter_cup_/
Hmm, I don't know. My attitude toward sex is probably a little more laissez faire than most people's. I've enjoyed "friends with benefits" relationships, as well as long term, committed relationships and have found them both satisfying. But then again, I'm the type of person who eats off my good china and drinks out of my Waterford every day.

I think this is one of those things where there is no right or wrong, and a person has to find their own way.

on 2005-11-30 12:13 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
It is highly likely you have a healthier attitude toward sex than I do. I have Issues when it comes to sex.

But I do think sometimes 'kids these days' don't really understand what they're doing, and they jump into these relationships, and make them more serious then they need to be.

on 2005-11-30 12:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/butter_cup_/
Speaking metaphorically, drinking your morning orange juice out of Waterford is only satisfying if you appreciate the value of what you have. If it's just another glass, it won't be special if you use it everyday or if you save it for that perfect bottle of wine you've been waiting for.

Maybe it's not about sex per se with the kids these days, but about self-respect. If they're sleeping with people for the wrong reasons -- to be popular, peer pressure, etc. -- it does cheapen the experience.

on 2005-11-30 12:36 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
yeah, that's exactly right. Self respect. That's what it comes down to. I think that is what I was trying to say, but it wasn't coming out properly.

on 2005-11-30 12:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sierram.livejournal.com
I am too old,I guess,as before I have sex with someone,I have to really be in love with them,or it won't work,I can't feel much.Too insecure I guess!

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