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First I would like to apologise to [livejournal.com profile] dindin, whom I inadvertently insulted, I think, with my earlier rant about the Birkin bag. I fell into the trap of Rich=out-of-touch, elitist snobs, and assumed that anyone who wanted to spend lots of money on an accessory fell into that category. She pointed out, rightly, that some people save up and buy expensive things because it makes them happy, and that there is nothing wrong with that.

Secondly, apparently I was incorrect about the price of Birkin Bags. They cost something between $5,000 and $18,000 according to the thread on Television Without Pity. (Sidenote, I really have to stop reading the Gilmore Girls forum there because they bitch about the show more than anyone.)

I do wonder, if by some twist of fate I did find myself with lots of disposable income, what kind of things I would do with the money. I've always had rather expensive taste, but it is tempered, I flatter myself, with practicality.

I don't really like things that don't serve a purpose, and I don't think I'd buy a handbag that you couldn't carry on your shoulder simply because it is the thing to have, because I find the short handled bags to be annoying. I go for comfort and style over trendy, and I don't go for overly ornate decor.

Who knows? It is possible I'd go mad buying things just because I could, though I like to think I would manage to avoid the temptation. *glances upward to any god who might be listening* It would be nice to have a chance to prove that wealth wouldn't spoil me.

My friend is on a business trip, and isn't sure she remembered to set her VCR to tape Gilmore Girls, and our TV isn't set up to tape (Long story why - short version, husband can't be arsed to mess around with complicated wires and things) so I'm going to do a brief recap here for her. Feel free to ignore.

It wasn't the most riveting hour on television, and I really am starting to miss the Rory/Lorelei banter, but it was okay. Nothing continued to happen, but we got some small plot advances.

The show opens at the town meeting, which is interrupted by Kirk and Andrew dressed in Colonial garb, pretending to be denizens of Stars Hollow circa 1775 or so, complaining that they couldn't find their way anywhere because the street names were different. This was a set up for Taylor's Nex Big Idea. He said that tourism was down, and one way to get people to come is by returning the streets to their historical names. For some reason everyone pretty much thinks this is a good idea, including Lorelei, so Taylor is happy, despite the litany of Bad Ideas he's had in the past.

We return from commercial to see Lorelei at Luke's diner, waiting for Sookie and Michel to come in so they can go find out what the Dragonfly's new street name is going to be. Luke is strangly unmoved by Taylor's latest scheme, and reveals he has decided to be 'Zen' about the whole thing. Lor is a bit saddened, as she misses 'nuclear Luke'. Sookie and Michel come in, Michel complaining bitterly that he doesn't usually get up this early, and as he and Luke exchange some sort of banter, Lorelei's smile fades as she glances through the newspaper to see a photo of Rory at the big DAR event from last week's episode.

The shot pulls out again to reveal that Richard is looking at the same article. He seems troubled. Emily is nattering on about how the Maid du Jour puts sugar in everything, Richard does the 'yes dear' replies, Emily natters about how she hasn't seen Logan around and hopes that her talk with his mother didn't ruin things, then she calls to Rory through the intercom which is really loud to tell Rory to come to breakfast. Rory was still in bed, and I assumed it would be revealed that Logan was in bed with her, but it wasn't. Somewhere in there it is revealed that Richard saw Lorelei, and Emily is upset he didn't tell her, and peppers him with questions about Lorelei, revealing, presumably, she is feeling the seperation from her daughter, and it is bothering her.

We go back to Lorelei and company who check out the new map to find out what their new street name is. Turns out the new name is "Sores and Boils Alley". Just go with it. They are understandably upset, and Lor promises to fix things, and while she is on hold trying to get Taylor, she signs for a box that contains some antique clock, and no one knows why it was sent to her. This is Important Later.

Logan comes to take Rory out and brings her a present. The present turns out to be Birkin Bag which Rory and I both didn't know was a Big Deal. Turns out it is Haute Couture, or something, and costs a bizillion dollars. She dumps her small cheap purse into the new one and they go off to their date.

Lorelei finally got a hold of Taylor, and complained about the street name. He Taylors some about its historic value and how the fact that Stars Hollow was the place to go should one be covered in sores and boils once upon a time, so she should be proud of the name, but promises to 'look into' what could be done. Meanwhile she's received another package containing an old birdcage.

Next scene. Exterior, Pool House, night. Rory and Logan are returning home, Rory exclaiming over the amount of compliments she got on the bag. Logan d'ohs that he left his cell phone in the car, and is expecting a call from his Evil Father who is expecting him to do some corporate thingy. He says he will meet Rory back in her poolhouse of Hiding from Reality, and turns to go back to his car, but is intercepted by Richard who invites Logan in for a scotch.

Now what Richard is trying to do is pump Logan for info on Rory, because he is now realising what a mistake it was to cave to Rory's whining and let her quit Yale, but for some reason doesn't want to come right out and ask, so Logan misinterprets it as Richard trying to find out what Logan's intentions to Rory were. I figure this was a set up for Logan to cut and run, bazillion dollar gift or no, but apparently not. He does eventually escape, tells Rory what happened, she is appalled, and promises to set things right.

Back at the Inn, Lorelei gets a few more odd packages, these containing some ugly figurines that look vaguely familiar, and then has a meeting with Kirk, who offers 3 alternative names for the street, none of which are acceptable to Lorelei. She says, forget it, we are keeping the old street name, so there, and while talking suddenly realises where the stuff is coming from.

Rory is talking with Emily because Emily brought some million year old guy to fix the intercom, because the original company had gone out of business, and this is totally irrelevant so I'm moving on. Rory tells Emily that Richard scared the piss out of Logan with his intentions talk, and Emily promises to talk to Richard. Then 'between us girls' Emily asks how things are going with Logan, and Rory mentions the bag, and Emily practically orgasms on the spot because it's a Birkin Bag and that's a Big Deal, and the fact that he gave it to Rory must mean he really likes her and doesn't, for example, have so much disposable income that it doesn't bother him to drop thousands of dollars on a purse.

Emily confronts Richard who tells her that he just wants to know what is going on in Rory's life, so she encourages him to come a-snooping in Rory's Pool House of Poor Me to see if they can get clues. Apparently she did this to Lorelei all the time. (and she wonders why they have a difficult relationship?) She mentions how once she found Lorelei had a drawer full of Tootsie Rolls, and Richard, clearly uncomfortable with the whole thing, wonders vaguely what Lorelei was hiding under the Tootise Rolls which totally freaked Emily out. She says that question is now going to haunt her for ages. This was amusing, which is why I'm mentioning it. They snoop a bit, then Emily goes into Rory's bedroom, and this was the bit that was on the promo, so you think she is going to discover something shocking, like Logan's boxer shorts, or condoms, or S&M gear or something but instead she is just squeeing over the stupid bazillion dollar purse. The end.

Lorelei passes Kirk in a new tourist booth, discovers to her dismay that the Dragonfly Inn was completely left off the new Stars Hollow map because she wouldn't change the street name. She trots over to Lukes to find out that a 300 pound urn was sent to Luke's diner, and is now sitting in the resturant, and it is revealed that Emily is sending all this stuff in a passive-aggressive attempt to get Lorelei to talk to her. Or something.

Lorelei returns home to find her yard and home full of boxes. Emily calls and says she is turning Lorelei's old room into a 'gift-wrapping room', and does Lorelei want the doll house. Which, if I remember correctly, is actually a cherished childhood thingy. Since this is the one thing Lorelei would actually want, Emily is using it to force Lorelei into coming to the house, since the millions of dollars worth of antiques wasn't doing it. She tells her that if she doesn't come over to get it by noon tomorrow it is going to goodwill. Lorelei, very upset, gives up, even though she really wants the dollhouse, and says fine.

Logan tries to sneak in through the Pool House of No Negative Criticism's kitchen window until Rory tells him she cleared things up with her grandparents, adn they are not, in fact, expecting Logan to propose. He comes through the normal doorway, and as they sit on the couch, Rory tells him that she loves him. She adds, quickly, that she doesn't expect him to respond, and references the time Dean said "I love you" to her, and she didn't say it back because she was gobsmacked and (hello, 16) and didn't know how to respond, and he broke up with her. Logan, and here I was once again expecting him to leave a Logan-sized hole in the wall as he runs screaming from the room, tells her that he's said 'I love you' to lots of girls, and didn't mean it, and doesn't want to do that to her. Meaning, I assume, he isn't sure yet that he really loves her, and doesn't want to say it until he means it. Or something. She's cool with that, and they kiss.

Lorelei and Luke are going through all the passive-aggressive gestures, deciding what goes where, and she's all "Salvation Army" and I'm all, "Hello? They're antiques. Try Christie's or something. Make some money off them. Don't you watch 'Cash in the Attic'? Sheesh." Doorbell rings, and she thinks it is the pizza but it turns out to be Richard.

Richard says, "I thought you might like this," and moves away to reveal that he brought the doll house, which I thought was really sweet, and once again emphisises that he understands his daughter better than his wife does, whenever he can be bothered to make the effort. Then he says, 'We have to talk about what Rory is doing to her life," or something similar, because now he and Lorelei are On the Same Page, and we fade to black. The end

on 2005-10-19 03:43 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] deviantauthor.livejournal.com
Money for someone like you or me would be different than it would be for someone who's always had it. I'm too damn practical to spend that sort of money for someone else's name on my damn purse. LOL Who cares what name is on it? A purse is a purse is a purse, really. All that's being paid for is the name on it. To quote Shania Twain, whom I really don't like: That don't impress me much.

*g*

Now that I've probably unintentionally insulted half your flist, I hope you're not mad at me. LOL

on 2005-10-19 03:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] carlanime.livejournal.com
I have to agree with you: doesn't impress me, either.

For thousands of dollars, I'd expect my own name on my stuff, not Coco Chanel's. ::grins::

on 2005-10-19 03:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] deviantauthor.livejournal.com
LOLOLOL--shite, for a tiny percentage, I could buy my own industrial sewing machine and make my own damn bags. *g*

So yeah, then I could make us each a bag that would be useful and cute. LOL

on 2005-10-19 03:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
Again, to an extent I have to disagree. While I personally would never spend thousands of dollars on a purse, there is a signifcant difference in quality and design between one I buy at Target for $20 and one I buy at Nordstrom for $200. Is there price inflation because of the label? Surely. But there's also a quality and design factor.

I'm not out to impress you or anybody else. As [livejournal.com profile] charliesmum pointed out, I buy things that make me happy. It seems to me that you're the one with the chip on your shoulder, rather than me being the one with a problem because I like nice things. You can spend money on what you want and I'll spend money on what I want. I don't judge you, why do you feel the need to deem me "impractical" among other things?

on 2005-10-19 04:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] deviantauthor.livejournal.com
FYI--it wasn't a comment all about you. I don't recall ever mentioning your name anywhere in my post. You get what you want, I'll get what I want.

As for utilitarian, yeah, the purse I carry is leather, came from a Wilson's leather outlet years ago and still looks fantastic and it didn't cost a fortune.

I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I was simply replying to someone else's post. It looks like you're the one with a slight chip on your shoulder by taking my general comments personally like they were all about you. LOL

If you want to think I'm calling you impractical, go ahead. Who am I to argue about that now? *g*

on 2005-10-19 04:09 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
::rolls eyes:: Last I saw this was a discussion open to anyone. I don't claim to believe this was about me, but since you're commenting on people who do X and I do X it's logical that yes, I would comment on what I believe and how I act in a situation.

Personally I just dislike reverse snobbery.

on 2005-10-19 04:14 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
Personally I just dislike reverse snobbery. Which is why I felt sort of bad for what I said in my first 'purse post' because one of the things that bothers me about Gilmore Girls is the idea that rich=evil. The whole thing about Rory chosing the Rich People life has been a running theme, and frankly I don't see exactly what's wrong with that. You can be rich and still be a good person. I'm sure it happens. Statistically it has to happen somewhere, right?

on 2005-10-19 04:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
LOL. I'm sure. :)

on 2005-10-19 05:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] deviantauthor.livejournal.com
You were the one who claimed I said whatever about you, when I did no such thing. I find that rather amusing for some reason.

Reverse snobbery? That's hilarious. You don't know anything about me, but you're willing to label me. LOL

I must go make this a part of my user info now. Thanks! *g*

on 2005-10-19 04:04 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
there is a signifcant difference in quality and design between one I buy at Target for $20 and one I buy at Nordstrom for $200 That is true. Terry Pratchett has this really funny passage in Men at Arms, I think it is, where his character Vimes thinks about how rich people can afford to buy a quality item (in this case, boots) that cost $50 and are so well made a person can hand them down to their children and they will still be in good condition, but poor people, who can't afford $50 will spend $10 on a pair of cheap boots that will wear out within a year, and eventually will have spent the same amount of money on boots as the rich people, only the rich people still have the original boots.

It's funnier when Terry says it, but you get the point.

This is why I love bargin shopping. It is always fun to find something of good quality for cheap quality pricing! :)

on 2005-10-19 04:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
I love bargain shopping! I'm constantly at Loehmann's because I'm not rich, but I have expensive taste LOL. Spend money however you please but don't knock other people for how they spend theirs.

on 2005-10-19 04:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] chavvah.livejournal.com
I've made that comment ($50 boots vs. 5 pairs of $10 boots) many a time (usually regarding electronics). I thought about this long and hard when I was computer shopping. I figure, if you really want something well-made, and you're going to get good use out of it, and you're happy with the price you pay, I say more power to you. :)

on 2005-10-19 04:08 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zambonigirl.livejournal.com
There *are* some pretty darn impractical bags at Nordies, but nothing I've ever bought there, on sale or otherwise, has ever started falling apart, and that includes my totally adorable canvas minibag with bright pink straps. And Canvas almost always bites it after three or four uses. Plus? Nordstrom? And their return policy? You almost can't afford to not shop there. I'm with you.

But FWIW, I know [livejournal.com profile] deviantauthor, and I don't think she's directing things at you...

on 2005-10-19 04:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dindin.livejournal.com
I never said she was. As I said in my comment to her, since she was making generalizations about how and why people do certain things, and I do that specific thing, it's appropriate for me to comment from my personal experience.

on 2005-10-19 04:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zambonigirl.livejournal.com
The peacekeeper in me is strongly protesting my non-involvement in your discussion with her, but fair enough. I see where you are coming from, as it's where I'm coming from as well.

on 2005-10-19 03:52 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] chrysantza.livejournal.com
If I had loads and loads of disposable income, I probably WOULD spend more on clothes, etc...but the bulk would go to books and BPAL just like it does now. :D

*swoons at the thought of buying every single hardcover book she has her eye on*

on 2005-10-19 04:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zambonigirl.livejournal.com
I don't think you pissed her off. Not at all.

on 2005-10-19 11:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lunarlake.livejournal.com
Oh gosh. I meant to add you as a friend. I thought I had done it. Weeks ago. Anyway, just did. I've also started a new LJ, I'll add you there too! :-)

I still think it's funny that you said you'd "rent" your soul to the devil... That's a good one! :-D

on 2005-10-19 11:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
I got both your journals on my flist now!! :)

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